Hekiganroku / Biyan lu · CASE 35
Mañjuśrī's “Three and Three”
The Blue Cliff Record
Engo's pointer
Determine dragon from snake, divide jade from stone, distinguish black from white, and resolve hesitation. Without an eye in the crown and a talisman beneath the elbow, one often misses it face to face. Right now seeing and hearing are clear, sound and form wholly true. Tell me: black or white, crooked or straight? How do you distinguish here?
Case
Mañjuśrī asked Wuzhu, “Where have you recently come from?” Wuzhu said, “The south.” Mañjuśrī asked, “How is the Buddha Dharma maintained in the south?” Wuzhu said, “Monks in the Final Dharma seldom observe the disciplinary rules.” Mañjuśrī asked, “How large are the communities?” Wuzhu said, “Sometimes three hundred, sometimes five hundred.” Wuzhu asked Mañjuśrī, “How is the community maintained here?” Mañjuśrī said, “Ordinary and holy live together; dragons and snakes intermingle.” Wuzhu asked, “How many are in the community?” Mañjuśrī said, “Before, three and three; behind, three and three.”1
Setchō's verse
A thousand peaks coil, blue as indigo. Who says Mañjuśrī was the one conversing? Laughable—how many are in Qingliang's assembly? Before, three and three; behind, three and three.
Footnotes 2
About this version and its sources
- Full source citation
- Editorial title: 文殊前三三後三三. Base: CBETA T2003, T48n2003_p0173b25–p0174b03. Angle brackets represent inline notes.
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- Direct critical-edition translation from the cited received base text. Source claims, hagiography, uncertainty, and unresolved readings remain identified in the notes and project record.
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Engo's commentary on the case
Traveling on Wutai, Wuzhu reached a desolate place midway. Mañjuśrī manifested a monastery and lodged him there. Their exchange followed. Afterward they drank tea. Mañjuśrī raised a glass cup and asked, “Does the south have this?” Wuzhu said no. “What do you ordinarily use to drink tea?” Wuzhu had no words and took his leave. Mañjuśrī ordered the boy Junti to escort him to the gate. Wuzhu asked the boy, “A moment ago he said, ‘Before, three and three; behind, three and three.’ How many is that?” The boy called, “Worthy!” Wuzhu responded. The boy said, “How many is that?” Wuzhu then asked the monastery's name. The boy pointed behind Vajra. When Wuzhu turned his head, monastery and boy vanished, leaving an empty valley. The place was later called Vajra Cave.2 A monk later asked Fuketsu, “Who is the host within Mount Qingliang?” Fuketsu said: One sentence left Wuzhu no leisure to ask; even now he remains a wandering monk. To penetrate the level and solid, with feet on the earth, recognize beneath Wuzhu's words. Then boiling cauldrons do not feel hot and cold ice does not feel cold. To penetrate the solitary, perilous, and steep, like the jeweled sword of the Vajra King, recognize beneath Mañjuśrī's words. Then water cannot wet and wind cannot enter. Jizō asked a monk where he came from. “The south.” “How is the Buddha Dharma there?” “Endless discussion.” Jizō said, “How does that compare with planting fields here and getting rice to eat?” Is this the same as Mañjuśrī's answer or different? Some say Wuzhu's answer was wrong while Mañjuśrī's included dragon and snake, ordinary and holy. That has no connection. Can you distinctly discern “before three-and-three, behind three-and-three”? The first arrow is shallow; the later arrow deep. If you penetrate here, a thousand and ten thousand phrases are one phrase. Cut it off and hold it firmly beneath this single phrase, and you draw near this realm. Some say Setchō merely repeats the case and does not versify it. But a monk asked Hōgen, “What is one drop of water from Sōkei?” Hōgen answered, “One drop of water from Sōkei.” Another asked Rōya Jiao, “Pure and fundamentally so—how did mountains, rivers, and earth suddenly arise?” Rōya repeated, “Pure and fundamentally so—how did mountains, rivers, and earth suddenly arise?” These cannot merely be called repetition. Myōshō, the one-eyed dragon, versified: Vast, throughout the sand-realms, the finest monastery; before the eyes, Mañjuśrī alone converses. Not knowing to open the Buddha-eye beneath the words, turning the head, one sees only green mountain cliffs. The manifested grass-hut monastery displayed provisional and real together. Yet can the scene be called Mañjuśrī's, Samantabhadra's, or Avalokiteśvara's realm? It is not this principle. Setchō transforms Myōshō's function with fine stitching: “A thousand peaks coil, blue as indigo,” without injuring the blade or hand. The phrase contains provisional and real, principle and event. “Who says Mañjuśrī was the one conversing?” Wuzhu spoke all night without knowing it was Mañjuśrī. Later, when Wuzhu served as cook on Wutai, Mañjuśrī repeatedly appeared above the porridge pot. Wuzhu struck him with the porridge-stirring paddle. Even so, that was drawing the bow after the thief had passed. When Mañjuśrī first asked how southern Buddhism was maintained, a blow across the back would have been somewhat closer. “Laughable—how many are in Qingliang's assembly?” Setchō's laugh contains a blade. Understand what he laughs at and you see “before, three and three; behind, three and three.”